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ade85



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it means basically no body robs banks with a .44 cap and ball colt.1873 was the year mass produced metallic cartridges where on general sale,.45 colt peacemaker etc,so classed as a modern firearm,using modern ammo,rendering cap and ball loading obselete.45 colt sixguns are very popular in the US today .Besides you could look in gunmart and get a P38 bf,if you really have to have one



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris
8mm sound s*** and look s*** in a battle so i would not bother
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris, firstly re-read the post in the general section about 'blank firers and membership a moral dilemma'..as it covers some the issues raised.

Sorry if this sounds a little heavy, but there is little point reading/quoting the shipping details for US states and othe countries as you are looking to bring it into the UK that has its own restrictions and the law has changed quite dramtically over the last year on this issue. Apart from the points raised about the quality and usefuness of these weapons, you are on sticky ground with attempting to buy/import from overseas this weapon, as:
-the VCR bill prohibits the import of RIFs (replica imitation firearms) into the UK (as Ropes has pointed out) i.e this is illegal unless you can claim an exemption as if its under the re-enacting exemption I doubt you been doing it long enough.
-if the VCR issue above it is not enough to put you off, it is illegal to buy RIFs if you are under 18 even within the UK. And no you cannot say it is for your Dad (see section 40 of VCR info)
-Some UK parcel services will refuse to transport such an item if the contents are known and if the parcel is intercepted or 'accidentally opened' by the trusted members of the parcel carriers firms, you will recieve a visit from PC Plod -the RIF may well be destroyed without compensation (as you broke the law) so you loose your $100 or so.
-Similarly, HM customs regularly monitor imports from overseas RIF dealers and regularly seize such items. Again you will recieve a visit from PC Plod.
-Bear in mind that such an offence may then later jepodise any applications you make for FACs etc. And could reflect badly on the good standing that the group and other re-enactors have

For detailed easy to understand info on the VCR bill and RIFs read:
http://www.basc.org.uk/media/basc_vcr_guide_october_2007.pdf

There is also alot of information on the Airsoft Community Forums (ASCUK) about the VCR and RIFs (although its to do with Airsoft its the same issues with RIFs under the VCR).

You be better off keeping hold of your $100 or so and spending it on ww2 Gebirgsjäger kit and equipment ready for next season. Lots of suppliers both in the UK and overseas and little or not shipping/legal restrictions!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE VCR BILL IS ...........
See section 36?
but you would sill find it hard to get one!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The post office will charge you inport tax on this item because its fromthe states. If you look around at battles not many people use pistols and a lot of battle organisers will not let them on the battle field.
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ade85



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuff said really,stop,listen and take heed Very Happy
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les hearn



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and to top it now
i am going to have discissions with members of th eboard on wether to ban imitation blank firing pistols from the abbey due to the high risk of personal injury

in fact they explode.......
as do blank firing weapons of all makes

but there seems to be more small arms breaking lately
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ade85



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does that include my properly engineered stuff,les
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les hearn



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no ade just the small arms stuff as in the cast metal ones

seen too many break up lately
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Ropes



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will this apply to Machine pistols ie MP40's or just pistols les?



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