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Kris

Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 303
Location: Gretna Green
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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7.5 cm Gebirgsinfanteriegeschütz 18
German designation 7.5cm leGebIG 18
Calibre 75mm
Length of piece (L/11. ; 885mm
Length of barrel 783mm
Length of rifling 674mm
Weight travelling 410 kg
Weight in action 440 kg
Traverse 35o
Elevation -10o to + 73o30'
Muzzle velocity 221 m/sec
Shell weight 5.45 kg
Maximum range (normal charge only): 3550m
Rate of fire 8-12 rpm
Barrel life 10,000-12,000 rounds
Original designers Rheinmetall-Borsig AG, Düsseldorf
Manufacturers Böhm. Waffenfabrik, Strakonitz, Habämfa, Ammendorf/Halle
Remarks: Basic leIG 18 modified for mountain service. Development started during 1935 and production commenced in 1937.
Intended as temporary equipment until service debut of GebG 36 but remained in service untill end of WW 2. Could be broken down in 10 loads for manual pack transport or 6 loads for animal transport. A sled was an optional firing carriage.
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admin Site Admin

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 660
Location: The peoples Glorious Republic of Kidderminster!
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Good info find Kris.
Less than 500kg is light! You could put it on my jeep or Andy's Zundapp for crying out loud
Are you thinking of having one made? To have one made will be VERY expensive. Even if it was all cast, then assembled it would be a lot of work and man hours.
When I was doing 18th Cent we looked at getting some barrels cast and it was cost prohibitive. Also there is the firearms cert to think of or even how to make sure it not on ticket.
I hope you find one at the right price, that looks good. _________________ ,[_I_],
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barry

Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 221
Location: up the ladder
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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make it stop _________________ iz meerkat from kazakstan
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jonboy

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 565
Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| barry wrote: | make it stop |
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Jacko

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 397
Location: High Alpine pasture, Dorset
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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This plan is a bit mad. You have been given lots of advice by those who know well and of course it is entirely up to you how you (and your Dad) spend your (Dads) money. But, not only are there substantial financial aspects, you face logistical difficulties with storing and transporting an artillery piece, together with the potential serious legal issues.
However and perhaps more importantly, as Ropes has already pointed out, being part of a living history group, you and your Dad surely must both have other higher priorities/wish list for Gebirg/ wehrmacht kit ready for the next season of shows. Which must be easier/faster for you to obtain if funds are no object. Such as a greatcoat, HBTs, gebirg smock, helmet, splinter zeltbahn, webbing items etc, not forgetting all the bits that add nice touches to your load out and display like dog tags, Grosse rucksack, mess tins/esbit stove, gambock pin, knife fork spoon, binoculars, period labelled packets etc etc. To add, your Dads load out needs essential things like boots, head wear and greatcoat etc. Sourcing and obtaining items for load outs can of course take time but is rewarding. I think putting the effort into getting it together and making a loadout ‘special’ or more personal is one of best parts about being a militaria collector and being involved in a living history group. It also means you totally look and feel the part when the wartime living history is ‘on display’ in front of the public -who can be very critical.
Good luck with whatever avenue you wish to explore. Keep taking the medication lol!
See you at the shows _________________ Hurra die Gams!.....und der disco!!
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jonboy

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 565
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Jacko wrote: | This plan is a bit mad. You have been given lots of advice by those who know well and of course it is entirely up to you how you (and your Dad) spend your (Dads) money. But, not only are there substantial financial aspects, you face logistical difficulties with storing and transporting an artillery piece, together with the potential serious legal issues.
However and perhaps more importantly, as Ropes has already pointed out, being part of a living history group, you and your Dad surely must both have other higher priorities/wish list for Gebirg/ wehrmacht kit ready for the next season of shows. Which must be easier/faster for you to obtain if funds are no object. Such as a greatcoat, HBTs, gebirg smock, helmet, splinter zeltbahn, webbing items etc, not forgetting all the bits that add nice touches to your load out and display like dog tags, Grosse rucksack, mess tins/esbit stove, gambock pin, knife fork spoon, binoculars, period labelled packets etc etc. To add, your Dads load out needs essential things like boots, head wear and greatcoat etc. Sourcing and obtaining items for load outs can of course take time but is rewarding. I think putting the effort into getting it together and making a loadout ‘special’ or more personal is one of best parts about being a militaria collector and being involved in a living history group. It also means you totally look and feel the part when the wartime living history is ‘on display’ in front of the public -who can be very critical.
Good luck with whatever avenue you wish to explore. Keep taking the medication lol!
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi lads
There's a good book which is a usefull source of info on Gebirgs equipment and weapons :
Weapons and Equipment of the German Mountain Troops in World War 2 by Roland Kaltenegger
There is a list of photo's and information which is usefull and a section on Artillery used by the Gebirgs such as Mountain Howitzer's, Gebirgskanone's and Gebirgsgeschutze Mountain guns.
It seems the larger calibre/heavier guns were used behind the lines or on plains/battlefields etc, the smaller mountain guns which could be dismantled were used by the climbers themselves.
These were as previously stated "dismantled" and the pieces shared out amongst the men of the company/platoon so it could be carried easier when climbing.
(The larger pieces/bits would be hoisted up using pulleys/winches etc)
If you are thinking of purchasing an Artillery piece to be used in our reenactment displays Kris i suggest a smaller calibre which would be in keeping with our portrayment as a Gebirgs climbing Unit.
Regards Peiper
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peiper Guest
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Hi lads
Here's some pics ive found of Gebirgs transporting smaller calibre Mountain guns up into the peaks:
(see below)
(Using pulley's)
(By mule)
(By sledge)
Regards Peiper
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peiper Guest
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Here's some pics of the smaller mountain gun ready for action:
(see below)
(In the snow)
(On guard)
Regards Peiper
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barry

Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 221
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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